ION - Waterloo Region's Light Rail Transit

[Markster]

Keep in mind, that a level crossing will be installed at that exact location when they build Virerra Village.

[timio]

After a brief period of ramping up production, it appears as though Bombardier has fallen asleep. No more new deliveries for Ion this month and the TTC order has seemingly regressed in pace. I'm curious what the justification behind this is. QA? Paperwork? Labour challenges?

[Canard]

What makes you think the fault is Bombardier's?

Almost all of our trains are built, ready to rock.

Let's just wait 'till tomorrow, shall we?

[JoeKW]

What happens tomorrow?

[KevinT]

What happens tomorrow?

The future!  

[trainspotter139]

After a brief period of ramping up production, it appears as though Bombardier has fallen asleep. No more new deliveries for Ion this month and the TTC order has seemingly regressed in pace. I'm curious what the justification behind this is.  QA? Paperwork? Labour challenges?

Not likely any thing Bombardier related at this point. 3-6 are fully assembled and for the past couple of weeks have been undergoing testing at Millhaven. The most likely cause for any delay at this point is shipment scheduling with CN as 3/4 have been ready to ship for 2 weeks now. We may not actually hear about any shipments from Bombardier until the last one actually ships. So we may end up playing a game of "Whats in GEXR Lancaster Yard" for the next couple of months or so.

[timio]

What happens tomorrow?

All the candy gets eaten?

[Canard]

The delay is not shipping related.

Tomorrow at 7 is a Regional Council meeting.

[trainspotter139]

These showed up at Fairway ION Station. 

[JoeKW]

The delay is not shipping related.

Tomorrow at 7 is a Regional Council meeting.

We're cancelling the order and going with CRRC Changchun Railway??? Wait till Jeff Outhit hears about this!!

[Pheidippides]

The delay is not shipping related.

Tomorrow at 7 is a Regional Council meeting.

I thought it odd that no agenda has been posted when they are usually up the Friday before. Insider beans to spill Canard?

Oh, and yes, it is Bombardier's fault. They shouldn't have told council members back in September there would be 3 additional trains before November if they could not deliver.

Plus, I wonder if the fact that the unlitigated (contractual) financial penalties topped out in March contributes to the lack of incentive to get the trains built and delivered.

[trainspotter139]

The delay is not shipping related.

Tomorrow at 7 is a Regional Council meeting.

We're cancelling the order and going with CRRC Changchun Railway??? Wait till Jeff Outhit hears about this!!

Nice try but no. At this point it's not possible to go with another manufacturer.

[trainspotter139]

The delay is not shipping related.

Tomorrow at 7 is a Regional Council meeting.

I thought it odd that no agenda has been posted when they are usually up the Friday before. Insider beans to spill Canard?

Oh, and yes, it is Bombardier's fault. They shouldn't have told council members back in September there would be 3 additional trains before November if they could not deliver.

Plus, I wonder if the fact that the unlitigated (contractual) financial penalties topped out in March contributes to the lack of incentive to get the trains built and delivered.

Technically they could have delivered 3 & 4 by now. Those two have been ready to ship for 2+ weeks.

[Pheidippides]

Technically they could have delivered 3 & 4 by now. Those two have been ready to ship for 2+ weeks.

Technically yes, but that wasn't the commitment. Technically we were supposed to have 14 trains a 10 months ago. Neither technicality one helps our current situation; only results matter at this point.

That's like ordering a 14 course meal at a restaurant and having it sit in the kitchen; what good is it to you there? Except in this case we called the restaurant 4 years ahead because we heard so much about the establishment's locally made specialty and wanted to make sure we got to try this local delicacy before a larger group's reservation runs the kitchen staff off their feet.

Sure, they dropped off the first course of the meal, but it was day old bread that didn't live up to the long hyped expectations, but now the rest of meal is done. You can see it, smell it, but can't quite touch it yet, and now you can't get the server's attention, and now you're getting  h-angry.

[timio]

^ this.