General Road and Highway Discussion

[Canard]

Highway 8 on-ramp to 401 EB is reconfigured!

The loss of the right lane now happens after the left lane touches 401. In other words, instead of:

2/2 > 2/1 > 3 Lanes, we now have,
2/2 > 4 > 3 Lanes.

(Remember, 401 EB goes to 2 Lanes just after Shantz Hill/King St)

This will only make things better short-term if everyone coming down the flyover in the left lane immediately moves left into the right 401 through-lane.

There was no backup at all at 7am.

401 WB took me >30 minutes at 12:30 heading WB between Franklin and 8, though. There was some kind of congestion beyond the flyover I couldn’t see. I can’t imagine what it was, other than an accident?

[Coke6pk]

I will assume the bike lanes are not the issue of high speeds, and therefore the bike lanes will be exempted from the actual speed humps.

I have no doubt cars will cut into the bike lane to save 1/2 of their alignment .... That's not good for bike safety.

Coke

[Canard]

I’ll take a video sometime of what people do at the railway crossing on Speedsville just North of Eagle. You won’t believe it!

[danbrotherston]

I will assume the bike lanes are not the issue of high speeds, and therefore the bike lanes will be exempted from the actual speed humps.  

I have no doubt cars will cut into the bike lane to save 1/2 of their alignment .... That's not good for bike safety.

Coke

Lol, don't make assumptions about staff/contractors doing logical things WRT bike lanes.

[mpd618]

Sometimes good things trickle down. If another street where street calming would be justified in the real world, but not by the city's policies, can point to Glasgow and say that exceptions are made, that's a positive, I think.

Someone's going to have to do a lot of lobbying to get that exception, and therein lies the issue. People in less posh parts of town don't have the ease of influencing politicians and staff to get their way despite policy.

[tomh009]

Sometimes good things trickle down. If another street where street calming would be justified in the real world, but not by the city's policies, can point to Glasgow and say that exceptions are made, that's a positive, I think.

Someone's going to have to do a lot of lobbying to get that exception, and therein lies the issue. People in less posh parts of town don't have the ease of influencing politicians and staff to get their way despite policy.

Oh, I think they do.  It's not just one or two projects that have been derailed (like LRT phase 2) due to neighbourhood opposition.  (Notice I didn't say "N...Y"!)

[danbrotherston]

Someone's going to have to do a lot of lobbying to get that exception, and therein lies the issue. People in less posh parts of town don't have the ease of influencing politicians and staff to get their way despite policy.

Oh, I think they do.  It's not just one or two projects that have been derailed (like LRT phase 2) due to neighbourhood opposition.  (Notice I didn't say "N...Y"!)

Nobody said they have no ability to influence, but they absolutely have less ability.

Wealthier people are more invested in their location, have more time to spend on issues, and have more money to hire outside help, and often also have better understanding of the system (for all of the above reasons).

[jamincan]

And are usually better connected with the decision makers.

[chutten]

And have the free time to attend consultations and work the phones.

[danbrotherston]

I will assume the bike lanes are not the issue of high speeds, and therefore the bike lanes will be exempted from the actual speed humps.  

I have no doubt cars will cut into the bike lane to save 1/2 of their alignment .... That's not good for bike safety.

Coke

No, apparently staff/contractor felt that speeding cyclists in the bike lane is in fact the real danger, and the speed bump is primarily within the bike lane:

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Speed bump in the bike lane?  Bottom of Glasgow, Fisher Hallman and westmount <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/notgood?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#notgood</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/kitchener?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#kitchener</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/WaterlooRegion?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#WaterlooRegion</a> <a href="https://t.co/qfea2SqJTx">pic.twitter.com/qfea2SqJTx</a></p>&mdash; eco courier (@ecocourierkw) <a href="https://twitter.com/ecocourierkw/status/935470342528753664?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 28, 2017</a></blockquote>

What are the people thinking who build this stuff?!  Seriously.  It makes me so depressed.

[panamaniac]

I have never seen anything like that. Is there a logical way to explain that? I can't think of anything, although it would encourage cars to stay in their lane rather than nipping into the bike lane to avoid a speed bump.

[JoeKW]

Maybe it will encourage drivers to not drive into the bike lane to avoid the bump.

[MidTowner]

Look how complicated things can get. The simple thing is to just separate the bike lane from the car lane.

[Markster]

Uh, was there a problem with bikes speeding (over 40km/h) on Glasgow? I have serious doubts.
This seems designed to hurt people on bikes.

[danbrotherston]

Maybe it will encourage drivers to not drive into the bike lane to avoid the bump.

Even if that was a reasonable idea, the pavement markings are contrary to that, the shark teeth (which frankly are pointing the wrong way) are lined up to encourage drivers into the bike lane.