Election Results Discussion

[chutten]

Ranked ballots are in for Cambridge's 2022 election according to CBC: https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/kitchener...-1.4874304

[Spokes]

How on earth could ranked ballots not pass?  Opposition to any sort of change?

*sigh*...pathetic.

It did pass in Kingston however.

Even better, despite the extended process that's totally unnecessary, but still happening in London, there's a good chance they'll get their results before us.

I'm curious about the feedback in London when it's all said and done.

[Spokes]

Ranked ballots are in for Cambridge's 2022 election according to CBC: https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/kitchener...-1.4874304

Ok I'm relieved by this. Glad ranked ballots aren't dead.

I'm curious if the rest of WR would just implement this or if they'll demand a referendum first

[bgb_ca]

Woo 33% percent turnout in Cambridge. Ranked ballots are dead. Surprise surprise.

How on earth could ranked ballots not pass?  Opposition to any sort of change?

This CBC article says it passed. So what is right?

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/kitchener...-1.4874304

[trainspotter139]

How on earth could ranked ballots not pass?  Opposition to any sort of change?

This CBC article says it passed. So what is right?

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/kitchener...-1.4874304

It's dead because the Cambridge Referendum required at least 50% turnout

[danbrotherston]

This CBC article says it passed. So what is right?

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/kitchener...-1.4874304

It's dead because the Cambridge Referendum required at least 50% turnout

That's different, I believe it's non-binding, but still passed, council could say nothing, but much like the non-binding Brexit vote, they will probably do *something*.

Maybe not a sure thing, but hardly dead.

[trainspotter139]

It's dead because the Cambridge Referendum required at least 50% turnout

That's different, I believe it's non-binding, but still passed, council could say nothing, but much like the non-binding Brexit vote, they will probably do *something*.

Maybe not a sure thing, but hard

"The municipality is not in a position to proceed with the ranked ballot for the next election because we did not have a 50 per cent voter turnout, which the Municipal Elections Act requires in order for a referendum to be binding," said Michael Di Lullo, Cambridge's city clerk. 

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/kitchener...-1.4874304

[panamaniac]

That's different, I believe it's non-binding, but still passed, council could say nothing, but much like the non-binding Brexit vote, they will probably do *something*.

Maybe not a sure thing, but hard

"The municipality is not in a position to proceed with the ranked ballot for the next election because we did not have a 50 per cent voter turnout, which the Municipal Elections Act requires in order for a referendum to be binding," said Michael Di Lullo, Cambridge's city clerk. 

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/kitchener...-1.4874304

Although a referendum is not a prerequisite, is it?

[JoeKW]

Cambridge was never going to get 50% turnout... This is really the best case scenario.

[danbrotherston]

The 50% requirement is for a referendum to be binding.

I think the clerk is either wrong, or more likely misquoted, the lack of a binding referendum does not preclude ranked ballots, London had no referendum, and used ranked ballots, and I cannot find anything in the Municipal Elections Act which states a referendum is required.

Certainly, the council can choose to ignore the result, but I believe they could also choose to use ranked ballots in 2022, although, that was true without the referendum as well.

[panamaniac]

The 50% requirement is for a referendum to be binding.

I think the clerk is either wrong, or more likely misquoted, the lack of a binding referendum does not preclude ranked ballots, London had no referendum, and used ranked ballots, and I cannot find anything in the Municipal Elections Act which states a referendum is required.

Certainly, the council can choose to ignore the result, but I believe they could also choose to use ranked ballots in 2022, although, that was true without the referendum as well.

Did the new mayor have a position on ranked ballots, I wonder?

[tomh009]

I am a bit shocked at how well the old, white, male candidates are doing this evening.

If there were ever a time for younger or non-male or non-white candidates I thought this was the time.

I think we will actually end up with fewer women and non-white elected officials than the previous term. Not very reflective of our diverse community.

Kitchener looks to have five female councillors going forward (wards 4, 5, 8, 9 and 10). I think the outgoing council had only three. Paul Singh will again, I think, be the only non-white councillor.

Female majority on the Waterloo city council as well. So I think your shock was a little premature.

[bgb_ca]

This CBC article says it passed. So what is right?

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/kitchener...-1.4874304

It's dead because the Cambridge Referendum required at least 50% turnout

Ah they changed the article after... Stupid CBC

[jgsz]

In other election news, it looks like Hamilton's LRT division is far from over.  The pro-LRT mayor, Fred Eisenberger, was re-elected but council is split on the issue.  And in Toronto, irritating clown Giorgio Mammoliti was defeated.  

[JoeKW]

And in Toronto, irritating clown Giorgio Mammoliti was defeated.  

I imagine he'll end up working for Doug in no time...