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General Urban Kitchener Updates and Rumours
Took them long enough! That's great news. They collaborate so much already, that it only makes sense to merge the two. I'm surprised Cambridge Memorial and GRH haven't done the same as well. While we are 3 cities, it seems sensible to operate them all under the same umbrella organization.
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(04-26-2024, 11:36 AM)ac3r Wrote: Took them long enough! That's great news. They collaborate so much already, that it only makes sense to merge the two. I'm surprised Cambridge Memorial and GRH haven't done the same as well. While we are 3 cities, it seems sensible to operate them all under the same umbrella organization.

Big time, there’s obvious wins just from boring shit like purchasing at scale. I have to assume there are some very well-defended management fiefdoms that want to keep their little empires.
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(04-26-2024, 11:58 AM)bravado Wrote:
(04-26-2024, 11:36 AM)ac3r Wrote: Took them long enough! That's great news. They collaborate so much already, that it only makes sense to merge the two. I'm surprised Cambridge Memorial and GRH haven't done the same as well. While we are 3 cities, it seems sensible to operate them all under the same umbrella organization.

Big time, there’s obvious wins just from boring shit like purchasing at scale. I have to assume there are some very well-defended management fiefdoms that want to keep their little empires.

Ohhh yeah. My girlfriend and some of my family all work for GRH both in the medical and administrative side of things. They aren't gonna like that haha. It does work because there is a lot of overlap between KW and Freeport which makes sharing staff pools between the two locations easy, but there is a lot of nonsense that drags things on. Human resources is probably the worst culprit, because they are the most irrelevant organization in any business.
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(04-26-2024, 12:25 PM)ac3r Wrote:
(04-26-2024, 11:58 AM)bravado Wrote: Big time, there’s obvious wins just from boring shit like purchasing at scale. I have to assume there are some very well-defended management fiefdoms that want to keep their little empires.

Ohhh yeah. My girlfriend and some of my family all work for GRH both in the medical and administrative side of things. They aren't gonna like that haha. It does work because there is a lot of overlap between KW and Freeport which makes sharing staff pools between the two locations easy, but there is a lot of nonsense that drags things on. Human resources is probably the worst culprit, because they are the most irrelevant organization in any business.

HR is completely irrelevant in any public sector related organization.  All you get from them is, No, you cant do that. You cant hold people accountable.
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Was the new hospital intended to be in addition to the current capacity at GRH and St. Mary's, or merely a replacement of existing capacity? If it was supposed to be a new hospital in addition to GRH and St. Mary's, is this merger an attempt to keep health care north of the 401 under the existing organization(s)?
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(04-26-2024, 07:57 PM)nms Wrote: Was the new hospital intended to be in addition to the current capacity at GRH and St. Mary's, or merely a replacement of existing capacity? If it was supposed to be a new hospital in addition to GRH and St. Mary's, is this merger an attempt to keep health care north of the 401 under the existing organization(s)?
From this article from 2022:
"St. Mary’s nearly century-old building will be retired, while Grand River’s two existing sites will be renovated and repurposed. Its main site in central Kitchener would focus on ambulatory and urgent care, and Freeport would expand its rehabilitation services — with both hospitals sharing these spaces as well."
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(04-26-2024, 11:36 AM)ac3r Wrote: Took them long enough! That's great news. They collaborate so much already, that it only makes sense to merge the two. I'm surprised Cambridge Memorial and GRH haven't done the same as well. While we are 3 cities, it seems sensible to operate them all under the same umbrella organization.

Were you not saying something about competition in another thread?
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New hospital that results from St Mary’s, Grand River merger won’t be Catholic

If a proposed merger of Grand River and St. Mary’s hospitals goes ahead as expected, the 100-year history of a Catholic hospital in the region will come to an end.

St. Mary’s General Hospital was founded by the Sisters of St. Joseph of Hamilton and opened its doors on Oct. 21, 1924.

But its merger with Grand River would create a new hospital for Kitchener-Waterloo, with a single board and a new name, that “will not be a Catholic entity,” said St. Mary’s board chair Tim Rollins.
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(04-27-2024, 01:48 AM)plam Wrote:
(04-26-2024, 11:36 AM)ac3r Wrote: Took them long enough! That's great news. They collaborate so much already, that it only makes sense to merge the two. I'm surprised Cambridge Memorial and GRH haven't done the same as well. While we are 3 cities, it seems sensible to operate them all under the same umbrella organization.

Were you not saying something about competition in another thread?

There's a difference between competition between businesses and public hospitals...
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Moving the taxation discussion now to the taxation thread:
https://www.waterlooregionconnected.com/...p?tid=1453
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Growing Together East
The City of Kitchener is growing, and a lot of that growth is happening in the areas around the ION LRT system.

On March 18, 2024, Kitchener City Council approved the first phase, Growing Together West. This included Official Plan Amendments and Zoning By-law amendments to introduce new Strategic Growth Area (SGA) land uses and zones and apply them within seven of Kitchener’s 10 Major Transit Station Areas (MTSAs).

The final phase, Growing Together East, will update the planning framework for the remaining three MTSAs: Block Line, Fairway, and Sportsworld.

This project will enable and encourage responsible growth for many years to come. By participating, you will gain a greater understanding of the factors influencing growth and change in our city and Kitchener’s obligations to plan for this growth.


Visit us at a drop-in session this summer
We’re hosting a series of drop-in sessions that explore, through a hands-on activity, how the Major Transit Station Areas (MTSAs) at Block Line, Fairway and Sportsworld could grow and change.

During the drop-in sessions, City staff will be sharing information about the amount of growth we’ll need to accommodate within the next ten years. Please feel free to drop-in any time during the above sessions and stay as briefly or as long as you like.

Saturday June 22, 2024, 12 to 8 p.m. at the Kitchener-Waterloo Multicultural Festival (Victoria Park)
Saturday July 13, 2024, 7 a.m to 2 p.m. at Kitchener Market (300 King Street East)


Other engagement dates and times will be added as they are scheduled. To be notified when those dates are announced, subscribe for updates. Add your email to the Stay Informed box and click 'Subscribe'.
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