02-16-2022, 01:15 PM
(This post was last modified: 02-16-2022, 02:49 PM by cherrypark.)
Definitely not as far improved as separated lanes alone. Zero dispute on that.
However, if ** they took this design approach and ** really reduced the speeds (30 kph), changed the surfacing and streetscape to be more driveway like than the current roadway, and added bike boxes, etc. I honestly think yes it does improve it for the average cyclist. I would feel more comfortable using it; maybe a stretch to say though it would be enough for kids, nervous cyclists, etc.
I guess my view is that more of these kinds of streets downtown, if we could start building a precedent for it, would help net improve the downtown cycling and pedestrian experience where dedicated cycling lanes are "not possible". I know you have a different opinion of possible, Dan, but sharing a view here of where more of this kind of thing could maybe be an example of better secondary bike routing where there isn't an obvious space for dedicated lanes.
Does seem that College through to the transit hub terminus would be dedicated, which itself is super considering that section of Duke is maybe the worst of it near Victoria.
** Edited for clarity
However, if ** they took this design approach and ** really reduced the speeds (30 kph), changed the surfacing and streetscape to be more driveway like than the current roadway, and added bike boxes, etc. I honestly think yes it does improve it for the average cyclist. I would feel more comfortable using it; maybe a stretch to say though it would be enough for kids, nervous cyclists, etc.
I guess my view is that more of these kinds of streets downtown, if we could start building a precedent for it, would help net improve the downtown cycling and pedestrian experience where dedicated cycling lanes are "not possible". I know you have a different opinion of possible, Dan, but sharing a view here of where more of this kind of thing could maybe be an example of better secondary bike routing where there isn't an obvious space for dedicated lanes.
Does seem that College through to the transit hub terminus would be dedicated, which itself is super considering that section of Duke is maybe the worst of it near Victoria.
** Edited for clarity