I'm curious why Dan is so defensive - or at least acting indifferent about them/their tactics - in regards to this action group. I know he hates cars but it's hard to read the news about these vehicles being vandalized and - regardless of ones stance on personal automobiles - and not agree that this is dumb, annoying and pointless. Or is this just because he never really admits he is incorrect about something and doubles down on his points - wrong or right - when challenged about them, as is quite common? There could be a thread discussing how 1 + 1 is 2, but then it spirals into this 30 page discussion about how actually that is not always the case.
Like I don't see what there is to defend or at least not speak out towards a nonsensical activist group that is deflating tires of already owned SUV vehicles, knowing full well that doing this is not going to do anything. It isn't going to cause any of these vehicle owners to sell their vehicles. It isn't going to do anything to help climate change either (paper straws do more and those are basically pointless theatre)...because these vehicles are already on the road and just need their tires refilled. It isn't going to result in sweeping changes with any value - automobile manufacturers aren't going to suddenly stop making SUVs because some clowns keep going around deflating tires. It isn't going to gain any sympathy from people. It isn't going to do anything to advance the cause of environmentalism which you are seeing in this thread as well as online discussion. Even those of us here or those on Reddit, Facebook, Twitter et al. that are environmentalists and even those of us who dislike or do not even own cars don't see the purpose in what these people are doing (I've only been reading about this on here and Reddit and I think Dan is the only person I've heard from who hasn't been echoing the sentiments of the rest of the people...).
I could go on. There is nothing to defend here, nothing being achieved. All it is doing is making a mockery out of environmental actions, causing others to not take it seriously, disadvantages people (it's an easy repair, but not everyone has a pump or something) and is now wasting police resources as they investigate. Which will then waste more resources as it ends up court while a judge decides what punishment to give these morons. And it could end up resulting in violence. Maybe these clowns LARPing as environmental revolutionaries hit the wrong SUV one night and someone comes out, gives them a good punch in the face then waits for the cops to show up.
Like I don't see what there is to defend or at least not speak out towards a nonsensical activist group that is deflating tires of already owned SUV vehicles, knowing full well that doing this is not going to do anything. It isn't going to cause any of these vehicle owners to sell their vehicles. It isn't going to do anything to help climate change either (paper straws do more and those are basically pointless theatre)...because these vehicles are already on the road and just need their tires refilled. It isn't going to result in sweeping changes with any value - automobile manufacturers aren't going to suddenly stop making SUVs because some clowns keep going around deflating tires. It isn't going to gain any sympathy from people. It isn't going to do anything to advance the cause of environmentalism which you are seeing in this thread as well as online discussion. Even those of us here or those on Reddit, Facebook, Twitter et al. that are environmentalists and even those of us who dislike or do not even own cars don't see the purpose in what these people are doing (I've only been reading about this on here and Reddit and I think Dan is the only person I've heard from who hasn't been echoing the sentiments of the rest of the people...).
I could go on. There is nothing to defend here, nothing being achieved. All it is doing is making a mockery out of environmental actions, causing others to not take it seriously, disadvantages people (it's an easy repair, but not everyone has a pump or something) and is now wasting police resources as they investigate. Which will then waste more resources as it ends up court while a judge decides what punishment to give these morons. And it could end up resulting in violence. Maybe these clowns LARPing as environmental revolutionaries hit the wrong SUV one night and someone comes out, gives them a good punch in the face then waits for the cops to show up.