Victoria Park

[danbrotherston]

You're welcome to disagree of course, but I think it's value to discuss exactly what we are giving up and why. Because it isn't for special events or a cycling route, it's convenience for 100 or so homes, and nothing more, which isn't invalid, but it's important to keep it in context.

I would think most traffic on Jubilee is not for the nearby homes, but through traffic from Park to Courtland. And I do think there is more of that now that Joseph is one-way only.

If you close Jubilee to traffic, that volume will move onto West and Homewood (and some additional volume onto Victoria and Queen as well). (NB the intersection of Victoria and West is already terrible and would really need to be reworked.) That might be a viable option but will surely raise the ire of homeowners on those streets.

I suspect that this proposal would provoke so much opposition that I don't think the Kitchener council would want to stir that pot in the foreseeable future.

I agree, most traffic is through traffic, but Bytor was suggesting that a modal filter to eliminate through traffic, while maintaining local traffic for homeowners as an option. In that context, the only value being provided is convenience for local residents.

In general, I think you're right, council will not even consider it, but I think that it speaks to the absolute domination that cars have over our society, that the idea of eliminating through traffic through a public park is unthinkable.

I do think that doing as I suggest, closing the road during weekends in the summer is a viable route to actually closing it, if there was appetite for it on council, which there quite clearly is not. I think there's more interest in closing King, but that ship seems to have sailed now, given the current decline of downtown.