Highway 7 - Kitchener to Guelph

[danbrotherston]

I mean, there's literally hundreds of other roads. If you lack the imagination of not having it, you could also just drive in using one of the other roads and experience it in real life...or take the subway in, or the GO Train.

It really is amazing (in a problematic way) how little people are able to imagine change in their daily lives, no matter how that change really is quite minor in the grand scheme of things.

Like are you honestly telling me that if the Gardiner didn't exist, that driving down Black Creek Dr. or Avenue Rd. (or whatever other road is more convenient) would change anything about your day other than the road you drove on for the last 20 minutes of your trip to Toronto? What exactly do you fear would happen?

The answer I would expect from you.  I use it for work often, and taking the scenic way is not cost effective.   The Train or Subway is not an option. (I am not going into the specifics of my job that doesn't allow for it).

Just like you think people like myself lack imagination, you lack understanding that not everybody or everything fits into your lens..

I'm not sure what's scenic about Black Creek Dr or Avenue Road....I've driven them, they're shitty roads just like the Gardiner.

But I'm not sure what you mean it's not "cost effective"...you aren't paying anything to use any of the roads (everyone else is), if you are talking about the cost of your time, every time I've taken the Gardiner, it's been a time consuming mess...the idea that that is cost effective, but Avenue Rd. can't be doesn't really carry much weight. It might be a little longer sometimes, but all it takes is one distracted driver rear ending someone and all of a sudden, the Gardiner is much more expensive.