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Change Kitchener's name back to Berlin?
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(11-26-2014, 08:03 AM)Drake Wrote:
(11-25-2014, 01:11 PM)ookpik Wrote: My objection to the name Kitchener is about who it commemorates—the father of concentration camps and scorched earth policies among other notable achievements.

Also, wikipedia the greatest place to read misrepresented yet interesting things, reports that the Polish used concentration camps and that term at least 100 years prior to Kitchener's day.

I object to your misrepresentation of the alleged misrepresentation. From Wikipedia's entry on Concentration camps
Quote:The Polish historian Władysław Konopczyński has suggested that concentration camps originated in Poland during the Bar Confederation rebellion (1768–1772), when the Russian Empire established three camps for Polish rebel captives awaiting deportation to Siberia.[8]

So a Polish historian wrote about concentration camps set up by Russians to hold Poles awaiting deportation to Siberia. You're falsely accusing the victims. 

And then the Russians did it again at the start of WWII!
Quote:In 1940–1941, the Soviet authorities conducted four mass deportations from the eastern part of the Second Polish Republic, inhabited by Ukrainians, Belarusians, Jews, Lithuanians, Russians, Germans, Czechs, and Armenians, along with Poles. Approximately 335,000 Polish citizens were deported to Siberia, Kazakhstan, and the north-east of European Russia, by the NKVD. According to general Vasily Khristoforov, the director of the FSB archives in Moscow, exactly 297,280 Polish citizens were deported in 1940.[10]

This is of more than passing interest to me because my father was among those 335,000 (or 297,280) "guests" of Stalin. 

Sorry for the digression but you hit a raw nerve.
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RE: ION -- Name that train - by BuildingScout - 11-24-2014, 06:42 PM
RE: ION -- Name that train - by ookpik - 11-24-2014, 07:20 PM
RE: ION -- Name that train - by panamaniac - 11-24-2014, 07:48 PM
RE: ION -- Name that train - by MacBerry - 11-24-2014, 09:59 PM
RE: ION -- Name that train - by zanate - 11-25-2014, 09:59 AM
RE: ION -- Name that train - by jgsz - 11-25-2014, 10:37 AM
RE: ION -- Name that train - by ookpik - 11-25-2014, 01:11 PM
RE: Change Kitchener's name back to Berlin? - by ookpik - 11-26-2014, 05:42 PM
RE: ION -- Name that train - by BuildingScout - 11-25-2014, 01:40 PM
RE: ION -- Name that train - by jeffster - 06-17-2020, 12:40 PM
RE: ION -- Name that train - by MidTowner - 11-25-2014, 02:46 PM
RE: ION -- Name that train - by nms - 11-25-2014, 04:41 PM

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