01-19-2021, 11:24 AM
(01-19-2021, 11:15 AM)Coke6pk Wrote:(01-19-2021, 09:51 AM)danbrotherston Wrote: I mean, that's another type of discretion....like when the police measure your speed at x and then give you a ticket for < x.
I guess I should qualify, no one has ever gotten a ticket where the officer believes the person ran the amber, only when they are giving them a break.
I don't much like it in general, because people who fight tickets (i.e., have resources and look right) are liable to get it decreased even further.
Just another source of bias that automated enforcement doesn't have.
Be aware that on a Pt I Provincial Offence Notice, there is a box to the right hand side marked "CODE". If a ticket is reduced roadside (lower speed, lesser charge), it will be marked with an "R" in that box.
If you proceed to fight that ticket, the prosecutor already knows you got a reduction, and is less or un-likely to reduce further. Additionally, if you fight the ticket (ie. 65 km/h in a 50 km/h zone), the officer is required to provide the evidence as they noted. "ie, I recorded on radar the vehicle travelling at 95 km/h in a 50 km/h zone". The JP will register a conviction BASED ON THE EVIDENCE PROVIDED AT TRIAL, therefore, a conviction will be for 45 km/h over the speed limit, and not the 15 km/h over that was on the ticket. Fighting a reduced ticket is VERY RISKY unless you have some information evidence that works in your favour.
Coke
Interesting, I did not know that. Thanks for letting me know.
I would be curious to know what kind of success rate people have fighting tickets, including using services like "x-coppers" or whatever. Cross referencing with income, race etc. I feel like someone must have studied this data.