General Politics Discussion

[danbrotherston]

Although I’m disappointed with the outcome of the general election I’m glad to see Kitchener Centre turn blue along with the neighbouring ridings, gotta celebrate the small wins!

Conservatives also have more seats in Ottawa and hopefully will form a majority next time around

Frightened Boomers, welfare recipients and government workers got the Libs over the finish line, congratulations!

Nobody else felt the need to make direct personal attacks here—it is obvious many here are liberal voters (or at least supporters in this election) and you’ve called them out specifically. But it is ironic to see boomers accused of electing the liberals. 

Of course you probably feel attacked by the comments about the Conservative Party (rather than their supporters, which is why this is not an actual attack on you even though you perceive it to be) but that’s your choice to align yourself with such an unpleasant group of people.

[KevinL]

As a KSH resident, I am appalled at the winning candidate. That a certified physician can take the position he does on vaccines, let alone run for office proud of it, should not be acceptable in a rational world.

[danbrotherston]

Honestly. This outcome seems pessimal. The liberals won’t have enough seats to actually do meaningful things. And true to form they’ll play civility bullshit, try and compromise with bad faith conservatives. Then get a bad reputation for doing nothing and lose the next election.

I mean unless the liberals want to throw
away the US Democrats playbook and actually fight to win.

[danbrotherston]

As a KSH resident, I am appalled at the winning candidate. That a certified physician can take the position he does on vaccines, let alone run for office proud of it, should not be acceptable in a rational world.

And yet not only is that the case, but they do it and win. And not only that but have supporters. Even here. Makes it hard to have faith in democracy.

[westwardloo]

I just can't wrap my head around people voting for candidates that don't show up for local debates. Let alone candidates that don't even live in the riding (KC). But I do acknowledge that people have different opinions and views on the world than me.  I was just really hoping for a Majority Government. I usually like a minority, but with the uncertainty in the world right now i think a majority is what we needed.

[Kodra24]

Although I’m disappointed with the outcome of the general election I’m glad to see Kitchener Centre turn blue along with the neighbouring ridings, gotta celebrate the small wins!

Conservatives also have more seats in Ottawa and hopefully will form a majority next time around

Frightened Boomers, welfare recipients and government workers got the Libs over the finish line, congratulations!

Nobody else felt the need to make direct personal attacks here—it is obvious many here are liberal voters (or at least supporters in this election) and you’ve called them out specifically. But it is ironic to see boomers accused of electing the liberals. 

Of course you probably feel attacked by the comments about the Conservative Party (rather than their supporters, which is why this is not an actual attack on you even though you perceive it to be) but that’s your choice to align yourself with such an unpleasant group of people.

What direct personal attacks? It’s clear that boomers, especially women, vote overwhelmingly Liberal - it seems facts trigger you for some reason

It is what it is, and you don’t seem to like it or like having it called out by others, which I could care less about 

I respect people’s opinions but for some reason you can’t stand when someone has a differing view other than yours and it’s this constant whining that is disturbing 

That is your voter base, be happy you won

[bravado]

You literally called out “welfare recipients” as the reason for the win, instead of something normal like “the winning party winning on policy and popularity”, like a civil and gracious loser would normally do.

[danbrotherston]

Nobody else felt the need to make direct personal attacks here—it is obvious many here are liberal voters (or at least supporters in this election) and you’ve called them out specifically. But it is ironic to see boomers accused of electing the liberals. 

Of course you probably feel attacked by the comments about the Conservative Party (rather than their supporters, which is why this is not an actual attack on you even though you perceive it to be) but that’s your choice to align yourself with such an unpleasant group of people.

What direct personal attacks? It’s clear that boomers, especially women, vote overwhelmingly Liberal - it seems facts trigger you for some reason

It is what it is, and you don’t seem to like it or like having it called out by others, which I could care less about 

I respect people’s opinions but for some reason you can’t stand when someone has a differing view other than yours and it’s this constant whining that is disturbing 

That is your voter base, be happy you won

You are lying by omission. Then trying to distract from that by accusing me of whining. Nobody is fooled by that here. You’ve earned yourself a block.

[Acitta]

It was surprisingly close in Cambridge, and Kitchener South Hespeler is just a disaster, but I'm genuinely surprised by Kitchener Centre. The vote splitting is cause #1 there, but it really looks like Mike didn't grow his voting base over the last few years. That's a surprise to me because he genuinely seems like the hardest working guy in Parliament - and I can't help but add this to my list of footnotes about how working hard and being a genuine person really doesn't matter in politics. You won't get electorally rewarded for it, so why bother?

I'm disappointed about Cambridge, "Convoy" Connie is yet another local no-show at debates but it was relatively close by the end of the night. Bryan May is by all accounts a nice guy.

That anti-covid guy in KSH is just something I don't even want to talk about.

I am really disappointed that Mike lost. He was one of the best MPs in Parliament. It is sad that people who couldn't even be bothered to campaign or attend debates end up winning seats. People are too susceptible to fearmongering. I think that the people who run CPC campaigns must spend the rest of their time writing screenplays for horror movies.

[tomh009]

It was surprisingly close in Cambridge, and Kitchener South Hespeler is just a disaster, but I'm genuinely surprised by Kitchener Centre. The vote splitting is cause #1 there, but it really looks like Mike didn't grow his voting base over the last few years. That's a surprise to me because he genuinely seems like the hardest working guy in Parliament - and I can't help but add this to my list of footnotes about how working hard and being a genuine person really doesn't matter in politics. You won't get electorally rewarded for it, so why bother?

Mike really is a super guy, but no effective national party behind him. He was boosted last time by Raj Saini withdrawing too late, leaving the Liberals without a candidate. Given that those were kind of "borrowed" votes, I think he did well to maintain a nearly identical vote share to 2021. But the Conservative vote share jumped from 24.5% to 34.3%, and that was too much to overcome.

[Joedelay Highhoe]

As a KSH resident, I am appalled at the winning candidate. That a certified physician can take the position he does on vaccines, let alone run for office proud of it, should not be acceptable in a rational world.

Not to defend the guy, but it's worth noting that he's not an anti-vaxer. He was critical of the lockdowns and made some questionable twitter posts. If we're being critical of the guy, let's get the facts straight! (I'm also a disappointed KSH voter).

[Momo26]

This election showed how divided the country is...but at the same time united against the threat to our economy.

What is interesting is seeing the flip to the Liberals..it's amazing to see how one person trolling can make many in a nation forget about everything they complained about the past 9 years.

[neonjoe]

It might also be that people truly find the parties more of as a brand of the leader rather than the leader a product of the party.

[danbrotherston]

It might also be that people truly find the parties more of as a brand of the leader rather than the leader a product of the party.

I think this varies person to person, and party to party. E.g., the Republicans in the US are just MAGA now....Trump owns them. But lots of moderate Republican voters are in denial of this reality.

On the other hand, the democrats, have nothing remotely like that.

In Canada, Trudeau was branding the liberals pretty strongly, but that's clearly at an end now.

[Kodra24]

What direct personal attacks? It’s clear that boomers, especially women, vote overwhelmingly Liberal - it seems facts trigger you for some reason

It is what it is, and you don’t seem to like it or like having it called out by others, which I could care less about 

I respect people’s opinions but for some reason you can’t stand when someone has a differing view other than yours and it’s this constant whining that is disturbing 

That is your voter base, be happy you won

You are lying by omission. Then trying to distract from that by accusing me of whining. Nobody is fooled by that here. You’ve earned yourself a block.

How fitting - taking a page out of the Liberals censorship playbook