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5 Hill Street | 36fl | Proposed
#1
The documents haven't been posted for this site yet, the ZBA/OPA only became public this afternoon. Once the documents are public I will add the links to the thread.

The site spans 146 and 152 Lancaster St N, as well as 5 Hill St, it is the existing site of the Hogg Concrete plant and Transit Petroleum depot on Lancaster between Guelph and Wellington St.

The developer is Hogg themselves, with GSP Group doing the planning, they likely have a partner on this if it is anything more then a zone and flip. They also own the property at Charles and Sydney which has this development concept (nothing formally submitted yet): Charles Place | 25, 32, 34, 36, 40, 46, and 46 fl | Proposed.

They're intending for the site to have 9 buildings for a total of 2612 residential units, until the plans are posted there is no breakdown. The development is proposing a total of 264 sqm of commercial space. Between this site and the Vic Common site it is a significant amount of potential units with next to no commercial. The site is proposing 2403 parking spaces.

They are requesting to change the site from industrial to Res 7 in 2019-051 with the following site specific provisions: FSR of 6.1 (slightly lower than Vive and Corley development at 550 Lancaster site), maximum building height of 120.4 metres (35 floors roughly), and to reduce the outdoor amenity requirement to 8650 sqm.

Here's the site:
   

The site isn't particularly well connected with transit, you have the 6 running along Lancaster and then the 34 along Wellington so it isn't the most connected but with the 550 Lancaster site eventually getting developed it isn't the most absurd thing to think there will be some better transit eventually. 

In terms of OP the current OP has it as industrial, there will be members of council who will dislike this change significantly. The neighbourhood came out swinging against the Vic Common site so I'd expect a similar situation here, however with the surrounding lands half being parkland and industrial it may have a different outcome. The only thing potentially working in the sites favor is that Kitchener 2051 has this outside of an employment area, so the city wouldn't be going against their future policy on not removing employment areas. However with 2051 not even draft approved those boundaries could change and hence the city can't use that justification, so it will be interesting to see how GSP frames this. Regardless the Lancaster corridor is expected to have some densification based on all 3 of the draft concepts the city has made public so far. The final 2051 draft will likely be a combination of all of them (especially with the incorporation of ROPA 6).

Document Link:sUPPORTING dOCUMENTS
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#2
The documents are now public.

In total there will be 9 buildings ranging from 12 to 36 floors, with 5 at 12 floors, 2 at 30 and 2 at 36 floors.

In total 1834 1 bdrm units and 778 2 bdrm units will be provided on the site.

There will be 1306 Class A bike spaces, and 6 Class B. The site will warrant a LT lane on Lancaster based on traffic conditions, this is not surprising in the slightest given the AADT on Lancaster. The site itself has minimal surface parking with the vast majority underground or in the podium levels.

The floor plans are very preliminary, this is expected as this is definitely just a zoning exercise at this point, the functional servicing plan is really indicative of that just based on the preliminary nature of it. However from the concept plans there are offices on the ground floor of most buildings which makes it seems like these could be rental but again it's way too early to tell.

The concept does have a significant amount of open space which is certainly a positive, it's centrally located between all of the buildings with a direct connection to Lancaster.

Concept Plan:
   

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Is the "Establish Connection to Woodside" note from the developer, or something longer term in Kitchener's plan? There doesn't currently appear to be a trail into Woodside National Historic site. I'm not familiar with what the current status of public access to the Woodside property outside of operating hours.
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#4
Purpose built rentals or?
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#5
(06-21-2025, 10:44 AM)Momo26 Wrote: Purpose built rentals or?

I suspect no one knows yet. Ultimately that aspect is not required for a site plan or even a building permit.

But my bet is on rentals, given the overall site plan, and the fact that Hogg Fuels is still involved.
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(06-21-2025, 09:29 AM)nms Wrote: Is the "Establish Connection to Woodside" note from the developer, or something longer term in Kitchener's plan?  There doesn't currently appear to be a trail into Woodside National Historic site.  I'm not familiar with what the current status of public access to the Woodside property outside of operating hours.

Wondering as part of that if there is thought to converting the rail line to a MUP between Guelph and Wellington, or Breithaupt.  That would provide a nice connection (via Guelph St) to the Walter Bean Trail and other places east of the highway like Bingemans.  Although Spring Valley Rd is ridable.  A MUP is planned along Lancaster St as part of its upcoming reconstruction.
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