Grand River Transit

[bgb_ca]

Proof of payment allows for all door boarding, greatly reducing dwell times if properly taken advantage of by the travelling public.

Is the only line "As well, riders can board at the rear of the bigger buses, which reduces the amount of time at a stop."

The reason we believe there is POP?

That doesn't seem such a strong statement, I could believe it was a miscue--maybe they meant deboarding.  IIRC this has been proposed to staff and not really taken with much gusto before.

Well it is possible they misquoted or misunderstood their GRT contact. Or it is possible they will go POP on that vehicle (other cities have done it on certain routes) I guess we will find out for sure when they enter service.

[danbrotherston]

Is the only line "As well, riders can board at the rear of the bigger buses, which reduces the amount of time at a stop."

The reason we believe there is POP?

That doesn't seem such a strong statement, I could believe it was a miscue--maybe they meant deboarding.  IIRC this has been proposed to staff and not really taken with much gusto before.

Well it is possible they misquoted or misunderstood their GRT contact. Or it is possible they will go POP on that vehicle (other cities have done it on certain routes) I guess we will find out for sure when they enter service.

Yeah, my guess is they don't really know what they'll do right now.  But our transportation department does seem to prefer to be reactionary.

And perhaps EVs are on order, they aren't mentioned in the article however.

[Spokes]

Interesting that the article states the routes they will be on will be used as POP vs. Driver validation

Proof of payment allows for all door boarding, greatly reducing dwell times if properly taken advantage of by the travelling public.

I'm curious to see how long it takes our riders to adapt to this practice.  You'd think it'd be easy but theres a bit of a learning curve or behavior adjustment for whatever reason

[Watdot]

I'm curious how these will work with the new segregated bike lanes they are establishing on University Ave. Not to mention the crappy sidewalks and bus stops currently on the street.
Appreciate the GRT is moving forward and planning, but there's other infrastructure issues that need to be updated first to make sure things work properly.

[Bob_McBob]

Well they do have two years... University Ave is supposed to be undergoing a pretty major transformation, no?

[timc]

Is it?

[Watdot]

Well they do have two years... University Ave is supposed to be undergoing a pretty major transformation, no?

There was public consultations and the last update was a year ago, see HERE. So far there have been no drafts and no news. I highly doubt University Ave will be reconstructed within two years. We haven't seen drafts let along debated over them!

[danbrotherston]

Well they do have two years... University Ave is supposed to be undergoing a pretty major transformation, no?

There was public consultations and the last update was a year ago, see HERE.  So far there have been no drafts and no news.  I highly doubt University Ave will be reconstructed within two years.  We haven't seen drafts let along debated over them!  

There's actually a new survey about the "reimagining" asking the same questions...again on engageWR.


I answered almost the same way I did before basically saying "stop asking me this, the problem is the road is unsafe and dangerous for peds, cyclists, and transit riders, fix that please".

Only this time I was less polite asking "you already asked me this BS, and I think it was made clear, what progress has been made".

https://www.engagewr.ca/university-avenue-gateway

To answer the specific question, University Ave will *not* be reimagined before the artics are running, *but*, they probably will mesh just as well with the infra as the standard buses, they're going to have to have breaks in the segregation already for the bus stops, I believe.

[danbrotherston]

Anyone have any theories as to what "Actionlist Entry performed ACT. FUNCTION" means?

Definitely a contender for worst UX award.

   

[trainspotter139]

Changes coming to Route 76 for September Service Changes which will see the route split into two routes. The new route 36 will use larger conventional buses every 30 minutes as opposed to the smaller busPLUS buses currently in use. Route 76 will also get midday service

   

[danbrotherston]

Changes coming to Route 76 for September Service Changes which will see the route split into two routes. The new route 36 will use larger conventional buses every 30 minutes as opposed to the smaller busPLUS buses currently in use. Route 76 will also get midday service

Does this mean the routes ridership has grown to exceed that of the smaller vans?

That would be great news.

[trainspotter139]

Changes coming to Route 76 for September Service Changes which will see the route split into two routes. The new route 36 will use larger conventional buses every 30 minutes as opposed to the smaller busPLUS buses currently in use. Route 76 will also get midday service

Does this mean the routes ridership has grown to exceed that of the smaller vans?

That would be great news.

The driver I talked to said they were standing room only (possibly exceeding registered vehicle capacity) for most trips to Conestoga during morning peak and from Conestoga during afternoon peak. From the P&W Committee Agenda:

Route 76 Doon South – BusPLUS service – Continued growth in demand on Route 76 BusPLUS from Conestoga College students living in the Doon South area has strained the capacity of the current Route 76 Bus Plus service. Staff have evaluated service improvement options that would better accommodate anticipated ridership growth in September 2019 when the Conestoga College U-Pass program will take effect.

The preferred option for Doon South is shown in Appendix C. Route 76 would be realigned to connect Pioneer Park Plaza to Conestoga College via Doon Mills and Doon South Drive. A new Route 36 using a conventional bus would serve the south part of the subdivision, connecting to the college using Robert Ferrie Drive, Doon South Drive, Thomas Slee Drive and New Dundee Road. This would provide the additional capacity required for the growing ridership demand in this area.  Route 36 would ultimately travel along the future extension of Strasburg Road as identified in the GRT Business Plan.

As noted in the table above, a PIC outlining potential service improvements to Route 76 is planned for April 9th.

[trainspotter139]

Anyone have any theories as to what "Actionlist Entry performed ACT. FUNCTION" means?

Definitely a contender for worst UX award.

Did you register your card recently? That could have been attaching the account ID, etc. to the card so that if/when you lose it and block it the fareboxes will react to that properly.

[danbrotherston]

Anyone have any theories as to what "Actionlist Entry performed ACT. FUNCTION" means?

Definitely a contender for worst UX award.

Did you register your card recently? That could have been attaching the account ID, etc. to the card so that if/when you lose it and block it the fareboxes will react to that properly.

That is possible, the date does align with when I registered the card.

Interestingly, it gives the location as GRT Strasbourg (which is already a stupid thing to do), instead of a more meaningful value like "Web Portal" as is seen on other lines.

[trainspotter139]

Did you register your card recently? That could have been attaching the account ID, etc. to the card so that if/when you lose it and block it the fareboxes will react to that properly.

That is possible, the date does align with when I registered the card.

Interestingly, it gives the location as GRT Strasbourg (which is already a stupid thing to do), instead of a more meaningful value like "Web Portal" as is seen on other lines.

GRT Strasburg and GRT Conestoga are used whenever a bus performs an update to a card. I think it shows the garage of the bus or the location of the machine that updated the card vs where the transaction was processed.