Grand River Transit

[KevinL]

[KevinL]

We have an official layout/design for the Sunrise station: https://www.grt.ca/en/about-grt/sunrise-...ation.aspx

[trainspotter139]

Route 8 via Courtland & Weber is being detoured to future Route 6 Bridge-Courtland routing effective April 8 due to construction and impending ION-related Service Changes.

   

[timio]

Unfortunate they don't have a stop at the Talize intersection, but I guess it's pretty tight to try and add something.

[danbrotherston]

Looks like the highly misleading (probably outright lying) and obviously controversial ads will be removed from GRT buses.

I wonder why they were allowed in the first place. I feel like GRT should have some vetting process, and ads for such a controversial topic should be vetted aggressively.

https://www.kitchenertoday.com/local-new...es-1357879

[jason897]

Disappointing news for Canard - staff member at the ION event today said there will not be a special EasyGO farecard design for ION launch as it would be too costly.

[Spokes]

You're going to break the guy's heart

[plam]

Disappointing news for Canard - staff member at the ION event today said there will not be a special EasyGO farecard design for ION launch as it would be too costly.

Seriously? I find that hard to believe. I mean, sure, there is some issue with the number of fare cards we're printing being kind of small, but it shouldn't cost that much to print another kind of card.

[danbrotherston]

Disappointing news for Canard - staff member at the ION event today said there will not be a special EasyGO farecard design for ION launch as it would be too costly.

Seriously? I find that hard to believe. I mean, sure, there is some issue with the number of fare cards we're printing being kind of small, but it shouldn't cost that much to print another kind of card.

Two costly != expensive.

The point is, GRT, rightly or wrongly, feels that whatever small cost it would take to print (and design, as that would be the primary cost) a different fare card, is not worth the value.

Of course, given the site, the branding, and the current card, GRT obviously feels there is little to no value in good design to begin with.

[trainspotter139]

Seriously? I find that hard to believe. I mean, sure, there is some issue with the number of fare cards we're printing being kind of small, but it shouldn't cost that much to print another kind of card.

Two costly != expensive.

The point is, GRT, rightly or wrongly, feels that whatever small cost it would take to print (and design, as that would be the primary cost) a different fare card, is not worth the value.

Of course, given the site, the branding, and the current card, GRT obviously feels there is little to no value in good design to begin with.

With these types of cards you have to buy them in very, very large bulk quantities for them to be as inexpensive as possible.

[taylortbb]

With these types of cards you have to buy them in very, very large bulk quantities for them to be as inexpensive as possible.

Transit agencies tend to do so, but even in moderate quantities they're not very expensive. 1000 of them would be enough to have a unit cost of less than a dollar (and probably closer to $0.20). A $1 fee for the commemorative cards would easily cover that. I think Dan is right that it's mostly about the cost of design, and GRT not valuing good design.

[MidTowner]

They could have run a contest to choose a design and get high-quality choices for free, charged for a limited edition Ion-themed fare card to coincide with the launch, and turned the exercise into a very modest money-making venture rather than something too costly.

[tomh009]

Two costly != expensive.

The point is, GRT, rightly or wrongly, feels that whatever small cost it would take to print (and design, as that would be the primary cost) a different fare card, is not worth the value.

Of course, given the site, the branding, and the current card, GRT obviously feels there is little to no value in good design to begin with.

With these types of cards you have to buy them in very, very large bulk quantities for them to be as inexpensive as possible.

You can custom-print a film and apply it onto the existing fare card, though, for not much money.

Anyone for a WRC fare card with some nice ION graphics?

[MacBerry]

With these types of cards you have to buy them in very, very large bulk quantities for them to be as inexpensive as possible.

Transit agencies tend to do so, but even in moderate quantities they're not very expensive. 1000 of them would be enough to have a unit cost of less than a dollar (and probably closer to $0.20). A $1 fee for the commemorative cards would easily cover that. I think Dan is right that it's mostly about the cost of design, and GRT not valuing good design.

Is this a GRT issue or an ION issue. 

They run separate but closely interoperable business entities.

[KevinL]

Everything fare-related is GRT, not Grandlinq. On-train fare inspections will be regional employees, and rates of fares and other products like passes are entirely at the region's discretion. Grandlinq just runs the trains and maintains the stations and associated infrastructure.