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Highway 7 - Kitchener to Guelph
Hwy 7 not included in the Provincial 2021 budget. Pushed back again to become an election issue? This decision couldn't possibly be due to who represents the ridings of Kitchener and Guelph? Caroline Mulroney riding has the Bradford bypass conveniently included.
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On Friday I noticed the paintball place near Bingeman's has completely cleared out sometime in the past few weeks. Signs of progress? Or just a convenient moment in the lifecycle of the lease?
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(05-24-2021, 04:37 PM)timio Wrote: On Friday I noticed the paintball place near Bingeman's has completely cleared out sometime in the past few weeks. Signs of progress? Or just a convenient moment in the lifecycle of the lease?

Would it have been affected by the highway? I did notice it missing though, but close proximity to Bingemans makes me think that the closure was covid-19 related.
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That property is needed for the project, yes.
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Still would have to believe its more covid related than anything. This project is moving at a snail's pace and the next part of it is the bridges over the grand, which I doubt this property would have to vacate for (though I could be wrong)
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Access road?
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Noticed the property owned by Smart Centres at Victoria and Fountain is up for sale now. This would have been a big junction point off the highway. They're giving up on it, I assume?
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(05-30-2021, 02:44 AM)GtwoK Wrote: Noticed the property owned by Smart Centres at Victoria and Fountain is up for sale now. This would have been a big junction point off the highway. They're giving up on it, I assume?

I don't think anything has changed/it's been for sale for a while. That sign went up years ago, and blew down in a wind storm over the winter. They just fixed the sign a few weeks ago.
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Frederick Street bridge work will be starting next year:

https://twitter.com/ONtransport/status/1...3662163969
https://twitter.com/berryonline/status/1...5175261189

In related news, no firm date in the 2021 Southern Highways program (https://www.ontario.ca/page/ontarios-highway-programs) for the rest of the highway.
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(07-21-2021, 04:15 PM)timio Wrote: Frederick Street bridge work will be starting next year:

https://twitter.com/ONtransport/status/1...3662163969
https://twitter.com/berryonline/status/1...5175261189

In related news, no firm date in the 2021 Southern Highways program (https://www.ontario.ca/page/ontarios-highway-programs) for the rest of the highway.

Yet it seems that it's now officially approved...again...

https://www.kitchenertoday.com/local-new...-7-3974375

Hopefully shovels in before next election -- but it really does smell like an election promise, much like the Liberals before, and the PC's before that, and the NDP before that, and the Liberals before that, and the PC's before that.

Just seems like we've been down this road (pardon the pun) several times....
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I'll say it again, I'd much rather the money be spent improving the existing highway, adding active transportation and transit options.

But I don't think anyone is even slightly willing to propose it. I'm so tired of planning for failure.
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(07-21-2021, 06:27 PM)danbrotherston Wrote: I'll say it again, I'd much rather the money be spent improving the existing highway, adding active transportation and transit options.

But I don't think anyone is even slightly willing to propose it. I'm so tired of planning for failure.

You didn't hear this from me:

Stage 3 Ion (2030's) will be from Victoria and IRA Needles in Kitchener to Guelph, ending a UoG. Stations are at Victoria and IRA Needles (or potentially the Boardwalk), Victoria and Fischer-Hallman, Victoria and Westmount, Victoria and King, Victoria and Lancaster, River Road, Bingemans, Breslau, then in Guelph; Woodlawn and Imperial, Woodlawn at Hanlon, Hanlon and Willow, Hanlon and Wellington, Stone Road Mall (Edinburgh), then UoG (Gordon).

Highway 7 can't be improved further without disrupting this stage 3.

It's part of the regional transit improvement for the tri-cities and Guelph.
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(07-21-2021, 07:13 PM)jeffster Wrote:
(07-21-2021, 06:27 PM)danbrotherston Wrote: I'll say it again, I'd much rather the money be spent improving the existing highway, adding active transportation and transit options.

But I don't think anyone is even slightly willing to propose it. I'm so tired of planning for failure.

You didn't hear this from me:

Stage 3 Ion (2030's) will be from Victoria and IRA Needles in Kitchener to Guelph, ending a UoG. Stations are at Victoria and IRA Needles (or potentially the Boardwalk), Victoria and Fischer-Hallman, Victoria and Westmount, Victoria and King, Victoria and Lancaster, River Road, Bingemans, Breslau, then in Guelph; Woodlawn and Imperial, Woodlawn at Hanlon, Hanlon and Willow, Hanlon and Wellington, Stone Road Mall (Edinburgh), then UoG (Gordon).

Highway 7 can't be improved further without disrupting this stage 3.

It's part of the regional transit improvement for the tri-cities and Guelph.

I mean, that's a nice pipe dream lol. But it bugs the hell out of me that we don't have real transit right now. This is 100% about will, and 0% about ability, there is no reason that Metrolinx or GRT or GT couldn't start running a bus between the cities literally tomorrow.
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(07-21-2021, 07:39 PM)danbrotherston Wrote: I mean, that's a nice pipe dream lol. But it bugs the hell out of me that we don't have real transit right now. This is 100% about will, and 0% about ability, there is no reason that Metrolinx or GRT or GT couldn't start running a bus between the cities literally tomorrow.

I’m very skeptical of the value of a long east-west LRT line that goes all the way to Guelph.

But that’s one more reason it’s irritating we’re not running bus lines now. Let’s get some numbers. Build demand. Actually provide incentives for people to consider non-car options from the subdivisions along the way.

At best the demand is there and we just have to develop it. At worst it never materializes (without a lot more incentives). Either way it’s ridiculous not to have an easy to implement option like regular busses.
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(07-21-2021, 05:32 PM)jeffster Wrote: Yet it seems that it's now officially approved...again...

https://www.kitchenertoday.com/local-new...-7-3974375

Hopefully shovels in before next election -- but it really does smell like an election promise, much like the Liberals before, and the PC's before that, and the NDP before that, and the Liberals before that, and the PC's before that.

Just seems like we've been down this road (pardon the pun) several times....

This is the same old shit. Pick one small part of the project that takes 2 years and fund it while doing nothing else. It doesn’t move the needle at all on completion because if anyone was serious this would be done in parallel with at least 3 other parts (like the bridges over the Grand River!).

I admit I was fooled last election because I thought no party would be stupid enough to not keep working on the project after it had gotten to the point of expropriations and construction started. But whoops I was wrong.

The stupidity of Ford is on display again though because he could have done this token work 3 years ago and then picked the next token project now and been able to claim it was continuous.
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