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King-Victoria Transit Hub
Is there a link to the video itself? I don't see it on EngageWR anywhere and the CTV clip only shows a little bit and is a bit hard to see.
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(12-04-2020, 01:32 PM)ac3r Wrote: Is there a link to the video itself? I don't see it on EngageWR anywhere and the CTV clip only shows a little bit and is a bit hard to see.
Not at the moment. I assume that they will be posting it soon as well as the video of the Zoom meeting on which the whole video was shown.
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(12-04-2020, 02:01 PM)Acitta Wrote:
(12-04-2020, 01:32 PM)ac3r Wrote: Is there a link to the video itself? I don't see it on EngageWR anywhere and the CTV clip only shows a little bit and is a bit hard to see.
Not at the moment. I assume that they will be posting it soon as well as the video of the Zoom meeting on which the whole video was shown.

Where do these meetings get posted? Not seeing it on the Regions Youtube channels.
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(12-05-2020, 03:23 PM)dtkvictim Wrote:
(12-04-2020, 02:01 PM)Acitta Wrote: Not at the moment. I assume that they will be posting it soon as well as the video of the Zoom meeting on which the whole video was shown.

Where do these meetings get posted? Not seeing it on the Regions Youtube channels.
I imagine it will show up on the engagewr page at some point, maybe next week.
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The little virtual tour video is cool. I'm getting excited.

I agree - This has the potential to be a focal point in the downtown core...

To ac3r's point, it will likely become a ghost area - less a warm spot for homeless to relax - unless there are some anchoring stores and restos. This won't have a tenth the volume that a Union Station has or a half a hundreth (possibly < 0.25%) the volume of Grand Central so what will it take keep people hanging around?

A resto/bar that is both accessible inside and outside? A cool International News convenience shop with a plethora of newspapers and magazines, snacks and neck travel pillows, a Starbucks or equivalent no less?

The possibilities are there...lets's exploit them...
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^ a Mickey D’s to replace the one at Moore. Quick commuter food. The one at the old Union food court was always the busiest place there.
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(12-07-2020, 08:43 AM)neonjoe Wrote: ^ a Mickey D’s to replace the one at Moore. Quick commuter food. The one at the old Union food court was always the busiest place there.

It's been a while since I've been through Union, but wasn't that one a McCafe one and not a full Mickey D's? (I would be 100% fine with just the McCafe one.)
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(12-07-2020, 12:03 AM)Momo26 Wrote: A resto/bar  that is both accessible inside and outside? A cool International News convenience shop with a plethora of newspapers and magazines, snacks and neck travel pillows, a Starbucks or equivalent no less?

These are good ideas. A little place to eat would be great. Charles Street Terminal had the Transfers bar/restaurant - while it wasn't great, it was still a very popular place for a lot of people. Having a café for really quick items or a small restaurant for people would be really useful. Forgot breakfast? No worries, grab a bagel before you sit on the GO Train. Something other than a major corporate chain would be nice, but even a Subway, McDonalds etc would be useful for people.

A small general shop could be a useful thing, too. In Germany most of the train stations had a shop called REWE To Go, which was like a tiny grocer with mostly convenience items and a few traditional groceries. Wine, sandwiches, fruits, snacks, cigarettes, newspapers. Whatever you needed was there.

Something financial could be useful too, although I doubt there would be enough travelers using this train station that would warrant a bank or financial service company.
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(12-07-2020, 01:51 PM)ac3r Wrote:
(12-07-2020, 12:03 AM)Momo26 Wrote: A resto/bar  that is both accessible inside and outside? A cool International News convenience shop with a plethora of newspapers and magazines, snacks and neck travel pillows, a Starbucks or equivalent no less?

These are good ideas. A little place to eat would be great. Charles Street Terminal had the Transfers bar/restaurant - while it wasn't great, it was still a very popular place for a lot of people. Having a café for really quick items or a small restaurant for people would be really useful. Forgot breakfast? No worries, grab a bagel before you sit on the GO Train. Something other than a major corporate chain would be nice, but even a Subway, McDonalds etc would be useful for people.

A small general shop could be a useful thing, too. In Germany most of the train stations had a shop called REWE To Go, which was like a tiny grocer with mostly convenience items and a few traditional groceries. Wine, sandwiches, fruits, snacks, cigarettes, newspapers. Whatever you needed was there.

Something financial could be useful too, although I doubt there would be enough travelers using this train station that would warrant a bank or financial service company.

Indeed, especially for employees traveling, when I travel to Toronto I usually expense breakfast (getting up for a 6:40 train after all), so if I could get it getting on the train, that would be excellent.

Honestly, it's strange that it is not planned IMO.
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Even the former bus terminal had "Transfers" ..
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Even if there is no cafe/fast food, I feel like a convenience store that sells Redbull, coffee, and those shitty wrapped sandwiches is the bare minimum for a central transit station.
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(12-07-2020, 01:51 PM)ac3r Wrote: These are good ideas. A little place to eat would be great. Charles Street Terminal had the Transfers bar/restaurant - while it wasn't great, it was still a very popular place for a lot of people. Having a café for really quick items or a small restaurant for people would be really useful. Forgot breakfast? No worries, grab a bagel before you sit on the GO Train. Something other than a major corporate chain would be nice, but even a Subway, McDonalds etc would be useful for people.

There are a lot of small cafes in DTK already, and we won't have more than 10 trains/day, which is not likely enough to keep another one in business. A McD, though, could draw in additional customers from outside the transit hub.
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(12-07-2020, 04:09 PM)tomh009 Wrote:
(12-07-2020, 01:51 PM)ac3r Wrote: These are good ideas. A little place to eat would be great. Charles Street Terminal had the Transfers bar/restaurant - while it wasn't great, it was still a very popular place for a lot of people. Having a café for really quick items or a small restaurant for people would be really useful. Forgot breakfast? No worries, grab a bagel before you sit on the GO Train. Something other than a major corporate chain would be nice, but even a Subway, McDonalds etc would be useful for people.

There are a lot of small cafes in DTK already, and we won't have more than 10 trains/day, which is not likely enough to keep another one in business. A McD, though, could draw in additional customers from outside the transit hub.
Maybe one of the nearby cafes would be interested in opening a small kiosk that is open at peak periods.
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(12-07-2020, 04:09 PM)tomh009 Wrote:
(12-07-2020, 01:51 PM)ac3r Wrote: These are good ideas. A little place to eat would be great. Charles Street Terminal had the Transfers bar/restaurant - while it wasn't great, it was still a very popular place for a lot of people. Having a café for really quick items or a small restaurant for people would be really useful. Forgot breakfast? No worries, grab a bagel before you sit on the GO Train. Something other than a major corporate chain would be nice, but even a Subway, McDonalds etc would be useful for people.

There are a lot of small cafes in DTK already, and we won't have more than 10 trains/day, which is not likely enough to keep another one in business. A McD, though, could draw in additional customers from outside the transit hub.

In terms of being a rider, I usually go straight to the train station without stopping, because I don't want to risk missing my train, so it's easier if the place is at the train station....although for the current station Smile Tiger is close enough, so I dunno...maybe Settlement would be fine, I'm not sure, I haven't caught a train from there yet.
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This was asked about during the virtual consultation. The answer was basically that they'll support retail in the future phases of the project, in privately-owned buildings, but the region REALLY doesn't want to be a landlord to private businesses. So they're planning to ignore the convenience benefits of a coffee stand in the main building.
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